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*** For Plastics, ensure that senior resident has evaluated patient
*** For Plastics, ensure that senior resident has evaluated patient
* If patient is deemed a potential replantation candidate, then
* If patient is deemed a potential replantation candidate, then
** '''Hand consultant (senior resident or attending) should speak directly to LAC+USC Attending Replant Surgeon''' on the recorded MAC line to discuss replant candidate transfer acceptance
** '''ED Provider''' to call the Medical Alert Center (MAC) (866)940-4401 and state: "We are requesting an emergent/urgent transfer for replant evaluation at LAC+USC".
** Once patient is accepted for transfer, ED provider coordinates further transfer logistics via MAC
***All Emergent/Urgent requests should get transfer approval/dispositioned within 60 minutes. [https://secure2.compliancebridge.com/lacdhs/DHSpublic/index.php?fuseaction=header.download&policyID=4374&descriptor=header1&doc=373.3.pdf DHS Policy 373.3 MAC Transfers]
** '''ED provider to say: "We are requesting an EMTALA Higher Level of Care Urgent/Emergent transfer for hand re-implant evaluation at USC''' to LAC+USC per DHS Policy 373.3".  
***MAC will ask for below info (at a minimum)
*** This makes the request a priority and should get transfer approved within 60 minutes.
****Patient’s name + MRN
****Primary diagnosis
****Reason for transfer
****Triage status: Emergent/Urgent
****Name of transferring (sending) ''attending'' physician and the name of the DEM AOD***
****Location: ED room number
**'''Hand consultant (senior resident or attending)''' should speak directly to LAC+USC Attending Replant Surgeon''' on the recorded MAC line to discuss replant candidate transfer acceptance
** Once patient is accepted for transfer, ED provider coordinates further transfer logistics via MAC   
*** '''Ask MAC for ETA of transport'''.
*** '''Ask MAC for ETA of transport'''.
****Estimated Transport Arrival times:
*****Basic Life Support (BLS) – Transport – This level of transport consists of two (2) Emergency Medical Technician I’s (EMT-Is). The average estimated time of arrival (ETA) for a BLS Unit is 30-45 minutes.
*****Advanced Life Support (ALS) or Critical Care Transport (CCT) – This level of transport requires ALS personnel (EMT Paramedic (EMT-P) or nurse). The average EMT-P ETA is 45 minutes, and 120 minutes for a nurse staffed ambulance.
** If MAC is unable to provide transport for Higher Level of Care Urgent/Emergent transfer within a reasonable amount of time this issue should be '''escalated to the MAC Medical Officer of the Day (MOD), DEM Admin on Duty (AOD), and the Attending Trauma Surgeon'''
** If MAC is unable to provide transport for Higher Level of Care Urgent/Emergent transfer within a reasonable amount of time this issue should be '''escalated to the MAC Medical Officer of the Day (MOD), DEM Admin on Duty (AOD), and the Attending Trauma Surgeon'''
**TRANSFERS FOR POTENTIAL REPLANTATION WILL PROCEED REGARDLESS OF WHETHER LAC+USC HAS AVAILABLE BEDS. (Even if closed to transfers for that reason per CMO Dr. Spellberg at LAC+USC)
**TRANSFERS FOR POTENTIAL REPLANTATION WILL PROCEED REGARDLESS OF WHETHER LAC+USC HAS AVAILABLE BEDS. (Even if closed to transfers for that reason per CMO Dr. Spellberg at LAC+USC)
*Dealing with Disagreements Regarding Transfer
**If there is disagreement between the attendings regarding transfer acceptance, the patient WILL be accepted by LAC+USC for an in-person evaluation by the replantation service (per CMO's at LAC+USC and HUCLA) - please involve both Trauma Attending and [[https://wikem.org/wiki/DEM_Admin_on_Duty_(AOD)|DEM Admin on Duty (AOD)]]


==Dealing with Disagreements Regarding Transfer==
==Dealing with Disagreements Regarding Transfer==

Revision as of 18:32, 18 August 2022

For immediate clinical management see "Replantation"

Transfer Protocol

  • Obtain STAT Hand Call Consult and page out as TTA2 if not done already
    • Hand call consultant should come to ED for emergent evaluation
      • Rotates between Ortho, Plastics, check doc box for who is on for the day
      • For Plastics, ensure that senior resident has evaluated patient
  • If patient is deemed a potential replantation candidate, then
    • ED Provider to call the Medical Alert Center (MAC) (866)940-4401 and state: "We are requesting an emergent/urgent transfer for replant evaluation at LAC+USC".
      • All Emergent/Urgent requests should get transfer approval/dispositioned within 60 minutes. DHS Policy 373.3 MAC Transfers
      • MAC will ask for below info (at a minimum)
        • Patient’s name + MRN
        • Primary diagnosis
        • Reason for transfer
        • Triage status: Emergent/Urgent
        • Name of transferring (sending) attending physician and the name of the DEM AOD***
        • Location: ED room number
    • Hand consultant (senior resident or attending) should speak directly to LAC+USC Attending Replant Surgeon on the recorded MAC line to discuss replant candidate transfer acceptance
    • Once patient is accepted for transfer, ED provider coordinates further transfer logistics via MAC
      • Ask MAC for ETA of transport.
        • Estimated Transport Arrival times:
          • Basic Life Support (BLS) – Transport – This level of transport consists of two (2) Emergency Medical Technician I’s (EMT-Is). The average estimated time of arrival (ETA) for a BLS Unit is 30-45 minutes.
          • Advanced Life Support (ALS) or Critical Care Transport (CCT) – This level of transport requires ALS personnel (EMT Paramedic (EMT-P) or nurse). The average EMT-P ETA is 45 minutes, and 120 minutes for a nurse staffed ambulance.
    • If MAC is unable to provide transport for Higher Level of Care Urgent/Emergent transfer within a reasonable amount of time this issue should be escalated to the MAC Medical Officer of the Day (MOD), DEM Admin on Duty (AOD), and the Attending Trauma Surgeon
    • TRANSFERS FOR POTENTIAL REPLANTATION WILL PROCEED REGARDLESS OF WHETHER LAC+USC HAS AVAILABLE BEDS. (Even if closed to transfers for that reason per CMO Dr. Spellberg at LAC+USC)
  • Dealing with Disagreements Regarding Transfer
    • If there is disagreement between the attendings regarding transfer acceptance, the patient WILL be accepted by LAC+USC for an in-person evaluation by the replantation service (per CMO's at LAC+USC and HUCLA) - please involve both Trauma Attending and [Admin on Duty (AOD)]

Dealing with Disagreements Regarding Transfer

  • If there is disagreement between HUCLA ED/Trauma/Hand Call Consultatant and Hand LAC+USC Replantation service about proceeding with replantation then HUCLA Hand Call Attending must talk to LAC+USC Replantation Attending on the recorded MAC line.
  • If there continues to be disagreement - the patient WILL be accepted by LAC+USC for an in-person evaluation by the replantation service (per CMO's at LAC+USC and HUCLA) - please involve both Trauma Attending and DEM Admin on Duty (AOD)

Repatriation

  • If the patient is transferred to LAC+USC and after evaluation it is decided that replantation is not indicated - HUCLA WILL accept the patient back in transfer.


See Also